20XX Saab 9-3

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pues a mi me encanta, más las lineas generales del chop que el propio frontal, pero sí, me gusta

Esa trasera la veo mejor para un 9-2 o 9-1. En un 9-3 tiene que ser claramente más tendida.

  Pues tengo que admitir que me encanta, no le pengo pero alguno, posiblemente la trasera es un tanto rara, pero en general es un buen chop…

Esa trasera la veo mejor para un 9-2 o 9-1. En un 9-3 tiene que ser claramente más tendida.

Justamente lo que estaba pensando.

Esa trasera iría mejor para un compacto 2 volúmenes en vez para un 3 volúmenes como es el 9-3.

Eso sí, el frontal, para mí es brutal.

  CReo que todos opinamos que ese fente es el idoneo, espero que alguien de Saab vea este foro…

la delantera esta muy bien,pero la trasera………..madre mia k pasada !!!!! me encanta,ojala viesen el diseño los aludidos,como siempre seba_s10 te curras unos diseños magnificos 🙂

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precioso
por cierto las llantas son cosecha propia o de otro vehiculo…
el conjunto una pasada

por cierto ojala que el 9-3 fuera asi
no me le quiero ni imaginar en la calle

precioso
por cierto las llantas son cosecha propia o de otro vehiculo…
el conjunto una pasada

  Pues que yo recuerde son del 9-5…

Exacto

Al parecer segirá en la Epsilon I, aunque muy modificada, la verdad que o bien esas modificaciones ahorran mucho dinero y la mejoran mucho o no se entiende como no utilizan la Epsilon II que ya utilizan en el 9-5. La nota entera abajo. No entiendo porque dice que el 2.0 turbo da 330cv en el Insignia OPC al final del articulo, yo creo que se han liado los de Motortrend.

[size size=140]Victor Muller – 2012 Saab 9-3 stays on Epsilon I[/size]

The most talkative auto executive in the world currently keeps flaunting his PDA with «secret» drawings of the new «Saab 92». We’re still waiting for him to appear on «Cribs» and divulge his account number on Twitter. Seriously though, he is doing his best to ride the wave of publicity afforded by Saab’s rollercoaster ride between death and salvation, and on the way, gives us some interesting insight how Saab is going to live separate from, yet obviously intertwined with GM and survive on a shoestring to pay back the enormous liabilities incurred to secure the transaction with Spyker.

One of the latest revelations VM made in an interview with none else than Motor Trend is what platform the first Saab to launch we haven’t seen yet, the 2012 Saab 9-3 will use. Even though the eyes of the world are now on the new 9-5, it’s the 9-3 that makes up the bulk of Saab sales and production. During GM’s ownership, we’ve heard various ideas for the next (and overdue, as the current model is a 2007/2008 rehash of a 2002 launch!) Saab 9-3, which lately have been gravitating towards the Delta platform, to be shared with the new Opel Astra, Chevrolet Cruze and Orlando, and the Astra-based «Buick Verano» sedan, as well as the Chevrolet Volt and Opel Ampera plug-in hybrid cars.

That plan assumed the relocation of platforms among GM’s European plants, so that Saab’s Trollhattan works would be assigned the Delta, to build the 9-3, possibly a smaller hatchback in the mold of Volvo C30 and Audi A3, and maybe even some low-volume specials for other brands. Ruesselsheim was to keep all of the rapidly dwindling volume of the intermediate-to-large-sized Epsilon. History had its own way with those plans, and currently Trollhattan and Russelsheim share the Epsilon, while Delta remained an Opel deal.

Why Epsilon I?

The news that the next Saab 9-3 will remain on the Epsilon I are less of a surprise once you look at the consideration. The version of Epsilon I used by the current Saab 9-3 has been heavily revised by Saab, to the point of being incompatible with other Epsilon I cars (Opel Vectra, Chevrolet Malibu 2004 & 2008, late Pontiac G6 & Saturn Aura) much to the chagrin of Bob Lutz, who discovered the Swedes have altered the hard points and thus spoiled his plans for using this «enhanced» Saab Epsilon for other brands such as Pontiac.

This means Saab is now more or less the sole owner of the «Saab Epsilon I» platform – a situation starkly different from 9-5’s Epsilon II platform, which is more or less being licensed to Saab by GM and is quite the same as in the Opel Insignia, Buick Regal and LaCrosse.

Manufacturing considerations

One has to remember that a quiet revolution happened at the Trollhattan plant during the prolonged Christmas-break-turned-wake and later restart of production as Saab has been sold at the last moment and exited bankruptcy. Namely, Saab production guys have managed to consolidate the production of all current Saab models, the 9-3 sedan, SportCombi and Cabrio, as well as the 9-5 sedan and upcoming SportCombi, on a SINGLE assembly line in Trollhattan. This means that keeping the Saab 9-3 on Epsilon I will afford Saab the same economies they enjoy now and the same flexibility they need to operate under a build-to-order system Saab intends to introduce taking advantage of the depleted stock.

Last but not least, the Saab 9-4X, currently to be made under an OEM contract with GM in the Ramos Arizpe plant along with platform-mate Cadillac SRX, is actually also an Epsilon relative (Theta-Epsilon in GM-speak) and shares quite many bits with the new Saab 9-5. So, once the contract ends, we could see the 9-4X and perhaps its replacement migrate to Trollhattan as well.

So, what will the Saab 9-3 be?

VM would of course reiterate the «more Saab Saab» mantra and commend the Saab engineers on how great the «Saab Epsilon» is and how much of an engineering change it will be when the 2012 arrives. This obviously doesn’t give too much of an insight into the real deal, but we can expect the Saab to keep the basic layout and dimensions of the current model, which are pretty much in keeping with the enlarged standard of the compact executive class (think Audi A4).

One thing to remember is that Saab and Alfa Romeo have been working before, during the Fiat-GM partnership days, on a revised version of Epsilon I, called «Premium Epsilon». In the end, only Alfa got their version, as seen in the 159 sedan and SportWagon, the Brera coupe and Spider cabrio. GM reportedly halted Saab’s development of 9-5 and 9-3 replacements on their version of «Premium Epsilon» as Saab engineers wanted a different suspension setup. But, what was too costly back in the early 2000s, might actually be the cheaper option now. And while Alfist complain that GM saddled the Premium Epsilon with their trademark excess weight, there is little limit to the praise Alfa Romeo got for making it the best-handling platform of the FWD world…

One more interesting snippet is VM stopping short of confirming the 9-3 to return to Saab’s trademark liftback (5-door) bodystyle with the 2012. While being keen to divulge many other «secrets» this might actually hint at the limited amount of changes Saab is willing – or being able to afford – to the current 9-3.

Under the hood – lifting the lid on… GM’s engines?

VM is king of marketing-speak when he declares the 9-3 will use engines belonging to the «Saab Family 3». When you actually look at the details, what he means are the familiar GM units – the 1.6 Turbo Family I engine, as seen in the new Astra, Insignia, and Saab 9-3, the 2.0 Turbo Family II unit famously turbocharged by Saab and now in its «second generation» of turbos, again shared with the Insignia and Saab 9-3 and… a 2.2-litre form! This is an interesting detail – while the Family II included 2.2 naturally-aspirated units in both American and European intermediate-sized cars (now effectively obsolete on both sides of the Atlantic), this would indicate the return of this displacement in turbo form. As the 2.0 turbo makes 330 HP in its most powerful form in the Insignia OPC, one can only wonder where a 2.2 turbo could go!

VM’s words are to be marked by GM’s enthusiasts, as he has, almost simultaneously with GMI, divulged the existence of the upcoming Twin-Turbo version of the High-Feature V6 engine. So, unless he was misquoted by Motor Trend, it seems something’s in the works indeed!

Oh, and the 2.8 V6 Turbo, developed for Saab by GM Powertrain and made by GM Holden, and by now also shared with the Opel Insignia and Cadillac SRX, is also expected to make an appearance, further confirming its prolonged existence.

Fuente: http://blogs.motortrend.com/6661914/corporate/exclusive-victor-muller-shows-us-new-saab-92-sketch-calls-it-top-priority/index.html

intersente… no me cierra mucho pero está bien

Como me gustan las líneas originales! más cuando hablamos de premium!