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20 enero, 2011 a las 16:57
El nuevo morro no me gusta nada, otro nuevo choteo al de Aston Martin. 20 enero, 2011 a las 18:17Pues el cambio es considerable…de frente practicamente parece otro coche. 
[img width=578 height=727]http://i51.tinypic.com/2dw7nz7.jpg Me gusta mas ahora, pena que perdio personalidad…
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20 enero, 2011 a las 19:01A mí ni si quiera me parece que mejora con el nuevo, me parece un paso atrás. Pero viendo que ha consistido en aumentar la cantidad de entradas de ventilación, supongo que tendrá razones técnicas y no solo estéticas. 
21 enero, 2011 a las 06:51A mi me gusta, lo veomás deportivo y agresivo el auto, tratando de asemejar un auto con motor de combustión por las tomas de aire, la trasera cambian tambien algunos detalles como la ubicacón de las luces dentro de la carcasa, el interior es el que más me interesa… 22 enero, 2011 a las 00:53Este coche para mí es precioso, una verdadera belleza, aunque me gustaba más antes en el frontal. 23 enero, 2011 a las 02:54A mi tambien, pero el nuevo a mi forma de verlo le da más personalidad y agresividad al diseño… 23 enero, 2011 a las 11:11A mí también me gusta más ahora. Lo que más me atrae es el precio, menos de 40.000 euros, ayudas no incluidas. Compitiendo contra Ampera, Leaf y el Th!nk City (este ya está desfasado), lo tiene casi ganado… 24 enero, 2011 a las 07:35Pra mi gusto el mejor electrico que se pueda comprar, no solo por diseño, por autonomia y precio… 24 enero, 2011 a las 12:05[quote quote=»Castro»]
A mí también me gusta más ahora. Lo que más me atrae es el precio, menos de 40.000 euros, ayudas no incluidas. Compitiendo contra Ampera, Leaf y el Th!nk City (este ya está desfasado), lo tiene casi ganado…
[/quote] No he encontrado exactamente de donde has sacado eso para decir que costará menos de 40.000€ pero me cuesta mucho creerlo. De ser así sería un éxito y por tanto no muy exclusivo pero lo dudo mucho, no creo que baje de los 60.000-70.000€.
24 enero, 2011 a las 18:16El precio del básico se supone sera ya con las ayudas gubernamentales de $50,000 Dolares, se dijo o se dio a conocer desde que se vio por primera vez el concept… Un ejemplo de los precios…
Report: Tesla says Model S to go on sale in Q2 of 2012
More than 3,000 people have raised their hand to proclaim they want a Tesla Model S, and their long wait for an electric sedan is nearing an end – delivery of the four-door will reportedly begin in the second quarter of 2012. The price of the Model S will lie somewhere between
$49,000 and $60,000and Tesla is planning on an annual production run of 20,000 units. The Tesla Model S is a rear-wheel drive, four-door electric sedan powered by 7,000 lithium-ion batteries. With the cost of batteries coming down over time, Tesla expects to turn a tidy profit from Model S sales.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/12/report-tesla-says-model-s-to-go-on-sale-in-q2-of-2012/ Tesla Model S will cost under $50,000 after tax breaks
When Tesla formally announced the Model S Sedan last June, the MSRP bandied was about $60,000 for the all-electric sedan. In its newsletter today, Tesla has confirmed that the «anticipated base price» for the Model S will be $57,400. With a federal tax credit of $7,500 available, however, the Model S should cost just $49,900. Details on what’s included in the base version of the Model S should be available at the vehicle’s official unveiling next week. Tesla says that even with a sub-$50,000 price tag (just barely), the Model S is really competing with cars that cost much less:
Because of tax incentives and relatively inexpensive maintenance and refueling, the lifetime ownership cost will be closer to cars with far lower sticker prices. […] The Model S will become the car of choice for environmentally conscious and discriminating drivers throughout North America and Europe.
For comparison’s sake, the Fisker Karma, a luxury plug-in hybrid sedan, will start at $87,900. The Chevy Volt will probably be somewhere around $40,000, though GM has not made any official announcement about its price.
[Source: Tesla]
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/19/tesla-model-s-will-cost-57-400-just-49-900-after-tax-breaks/ 21 marzo, 2011 a las 21:17Creo que es el lugar idoneo para ponerlo… Tesla lets us peek in on Model S development
It’s not every day that an automaker invites you inside its R&D center. In fact, it’s rare for any OEM to allow journalists into a room that hasn’t been swept floor-to-ceiling for any hint of what’s around the corner. Then again, Tesla isn’t exactly your average automaker.
The electric upstart, with its roots firmly entrenched in the Wild West idealism of Silicon Valley, is in the process of developing and testing its all-new electric sedan – the Tesla Model S – before series production begins next year. So in the Valley’s spirit of openness and transparency, Tesla threw open its doors, corralled a few engineers and execs, and let us poke around its Palo Alto powertrain facility to see how development of the Model S is coming along.
The last time we were offered a glimpse behind the scenes at Tesla, the automaker was still holding court at its… ummm… quaint production facility up the road in Menlo Park. While the Menlo operation is still around (joining battery packs and motors to the Roadster «gliders» coming in from Hethel), the new Palo Alto center makes a convincing case that Tesla is joining the Big Leagues.
If there was any doubt Tesla isn’t spending its partnership funding properly, Tesla’s new powertrain plant puts that to rest. The 350,000-square-foot building is a massive, three-story ode to EV engineering, with a horizonless bottom floor producing battery packs and assembling motors, and a second floor littered with monitors, cubicles and Tesla employees plugging away.
When we arrived, we were quickly ushered into Tesla’s main research and development bay, where a dozen Model S prototypes in various stages of completion were parked, stripped or hung from rotary lifts. A handful of workers were poking, prodding and assembling one in the background, and when asked what they were up to, we were told that the crew was comprised of managers from the newly acquired NUMMI plant across the Bay being shown how to assemble Tesla’s latest EV. Despite toiling over each nut, bolt and alignment, in the time it took for one exec to explain the rear subframe, the workers managed to mount the front clip (comprised of a boron steel beam, three radiators and assorted structural supports) and battery pack into one hoisted sedan – something that, according to our hosts, will take under a minute when production begins in Fremont in 2012. Now, about that battery pack…
The flat, black unit houses around 7,000 lithium-ion cells and is mounted directly underneath the Model S. When Peter Rawlinson, Tesla’s VP of Engineering, mentioned the minimal amount of time it takes to install the pack, we naturally asked if it was designed to be swappable. At this point, Tesla isn’t saying it has plans to offer a swapping service similar to that proposed and executed by companies like Better Place, but the potential is there, and that speaks volumes in-and-of itself.
Regardless, Tesla claims that the pack will be good for up to 10 years, with three capacities available to Model S buyers: one good for 160 miles, and two others that boost the range to 230 or 300 miles (charging times will vary from a few hours to a working day’s worth). Pricing for each comes in at $57,400 for the 160-mile variant, with the 230-mile version commanding around $67,000 and the 300-mile pack model coming in around $77k – all before federal tax credits are deducted.
Tesla’s learned a lot from the 1,500 Roadsters silently motoring around the planet, with owners logging nearly 10 million miles in the last few years. Compared to the packs fitted to the coupe, the Model S’ batteries not only boast increased performance, a longer life and higher energy density, but they are less costly to produce than those fitted to Tesla’s original EV. And that increase/decrease stands to continue. While there’s no Moore’s Law-type equation to determine the rate of battery innovation, Tesla CTO JB Straubel figures that advances in both energy storage and density are improving at a rate of around eight percent each year.
Tesla isn’t citing a weight for the battery pack just yet, but Rawlinson likes to point out that not only is the thin grouping of cells mounted incredibly low in the body, it’s been designed to be an integral part of the chassis – so much so that Tesla engineers reduced the diameter of the sway bars because the pack provided enough torsional rigidity.
As for the liquid-cooled motor, Rawlinson likens it to a Swiss watch, with all the components systematically developed and fitted to be as compact as possible – a good thing, considering it’s sandwiched between the rear axles. Yes, the Model S is a proper rear-wheel-drive sedan, kicking out around 295 pound-feet of torque and 300 kWh from the combined motor/power control unit (in the pic above, the motor is on the left and the PCU is on the right).
All told, Tesla is claiming a 0-60 mph run of under six seconds, and when we asked what other products Tesla was benchmarking against the S, the response from Rawlinson was simple: «The best of everything.»
Tesla is unapologetically hyping up the fact that the Model S has been developed (and soon to be built) entirely in-house, with production plans of around 20,000 units each year. But before series production begins, Tesla needs to test, crash, test, torture, test, drive and test its Alpha fleet of vehicles.
To that end, Tesla is building 20 prototypes at its Palo Alto facility, mainly comprised of the black sedans littered throughout its workshop to test a variety of different systems. One is being used to evaluate the electrical system, another is the dynamics and handling mule, while yet another is undergoing stress testing, logging the equivalent of 250,000 miles in around six months. Two brake testing vehicles are undergoing evaluation in the chilly wilds of Wisconsin and Model S Program Director Jerome Guillen drove one of the prototypes to work the day we arrived. So… comprehensive, then.
Tesla plans to produce around 100 total testers before production begins, with the Alphas running around for three months, followed by dozens of Beta versions set to be built in Fremont later this year. The orange sedans in the shop are being developed for crash testing, and while Tesla reps will only say that full impact testing is set to begin «very soon,» they’ve already performed a series of low-speed tests and were incredibly pleased with the results.
But with all this new production capacity, square-footage and warm bodies, how is Tesla going to turn a profit? Straubel admits that there are a lot of moving parts with its project, but is adamant that the Model S will keep Tesla in the black. «We simply can’t sell this car at a loss.» No kidding, Straubel. We’ll let you get back to work…
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21 marzo, 2011 a las 22:49No me gustan los pilotos traseros, se pierden. 22 marzo, 2011 a las 02:30Se pierden por no ser los definitivos, vamos digamos lo así, estan camuflados… 4 junio, 2011 a las 23:11Ahora en negro, a mi la verdad me encanta… =) Tesla muestra el Model S Alpha en una nueva sesión fotográfica
Tesla, como ya nos hemos encargado de martillarte, está dando ya los últimos retoques antes del lanzamiento del Model S, su segundo producto comercial tras el Roadster y el primero en ser fabricado en sus instalaciones estadounidenses. Será una berlina deportiva eléctrica con capacidad para hasta siete personas gracias a unos asientos de orientación opuesta al sentido de la marcha, y a diferencia del Roadster original, con un marcado enfoque premium. Pero antes de su comercialización hay comprobar que todo funciona correctamente, y como buena empresa de Silicon Valley, Tesla ha dividido su fase de pruebas en dos etapas: alfa y beta. La primera de ellas ha dado como fruto el coche que tienes sobre estas líneas, dotado de un paragolpes marcadamente agresivo que el del prototipo original, con mayores entradas de aire y una calandra rediseñada. También es nuevo el difusor trasero, ahora de aspecto sólido, así como los retrovisores.
En teoría, su técnica no ha cambiado, de forma que nos encontraríamos con una autonomía de 480 km, una velocidad punta próxima a los 200 km/h (120 millas por hora para ser exactos, que no son pocas para un vehículo eléctrico) y un 0 a 100 inferior a 6 segundos. Dentro, buena parte de las funciones del automóvil serán reguladas desde un centro multimedia Linux con 3G, soporte para aplicaciones y una gran pantalla táctil.
¿Mejor o peor que el Model S original? No sabríamos qué decirte. El primero era visualmente un coche más equilibrado, pero el Alpha tiene más garra y tal vez transmita mejor la esencia deportiva de Tesla. Posiblemente la mejor solución sería poner los nuevos paragolpes como extra y dejar que los clientes decidan… Tienen tiempo, puesto que no saldrá a la venta hasta mediados de 2012.
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[url url=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/url] 5 junio, 2011 a las 00:36JOD**! este último que belleza! 5 junio, 2011 a las 00:47Me encontre unos videos… En vivo luce genial…
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5 junio, 2011 a las 01:28Preciosísimo. 5 junio, 2011 a las 03:53El negro le queda genial, luce impresionante… Es un auto que deberá tener un uexito rotundo, no solo luce genial, el hecho no requerir gasolina es un gran punto y sus opciones de autonomia ni se digan… Me impresiona este auto y cada vez deseo ver más del mismo… Ojala nos trajeran la marca por estos rumbos… =) 
5 junio, 2011 a las 08:54Que no fotografien más al roadster junto a este, por que lo ridiculiza.
El S me parece increible.5 junio, 2011 a las 10:11Maraviloso!! Desmontado es una escultura muy bien esculpida.
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