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      Supongo que será por la reorganización de la gama al pasarse al eléctrico. Habrán carrocerias que se pierdan. Pero a saber si todo es así o qué va a pasar

      El GLC perderia la versión coupe, no la normal

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        Ah vale, o sea que matan los suvs coupes…

        movimientos muy raros yo no lo veo claro. En cada movimiento que tienen pensado hacer segun ese planing benefician a Audi y a Bmw

        por ejemplo, con el clase A fuera de juego competiran solo audi y bmw

        con los suv coupe fuera bmw que encima ahora el X2 lo hará un suv coupé tendrá más ventaja y Audi todos los modelos suv los tendrá con versiones sportback.

        no entiendo esto, Mercedes siempre ha estado en todos los segmentos incluso cuando tuvieron el Clase R

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          De momento es especulativo, pero si juntamos lo que se comentaba el año pasado con esto, pinta a que muchas cosas son verdad

          Parece que quieren dar prioridad a los modelos grandes y caros, los que dejan mucho más margen.

          Y tambien querrán volver a ser algo más exclusivos, vender menos pero ganar mucho más por unidad

           

          Pero ojo, no es para ahora, sino para 2030 o alrededor. Vamos, que tendremos todavía muchos SUVs, SUVs coupe, coupes, familiares…pero poco a poco se irá eliminando modelos de la gama

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            El roadmap de este año

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              El AMG One debe de salir todos los años en el roadmap 🤣

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                Mercedes activa de nuevo un sistema de suscripción por el cual por 60 euros al mes ganas 60 CV más de potencia…

                Esto es ridículo

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                  Es reirse del cliente y tonto también el que paga eso.

                  Avatar de A.P.M.

                    Mercedes presenta la nueva estrategia con las furgonetas eléctricas

                    En 2026 empieza la nueva entrega de modelos puramente eléctricos. Por suerte, Vitoria será donde se fabrique el modelo del segmento medio

                    Se basa en una plataforma modular que permitirá tener diferentes tamaños, baterias…

                     

                    https://www.autonocion.com/los-planes-de-futuro-de-mercedes-benz-vans-mas-lujo-y-segmentos-premium-olvidate-de-los-precios-actuales/

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                      Nota de prensa, en inglés

                      With VAN.EA – a modular and scalable purpose-built EV architecture – Mercedes Benz Vans sets the course for a fully electric future

                      • Starting 2026, all newly developed midsize and large vans of Mercedes‑Benz will be built on VAN.EA
                      • Three modules allow for a clear differentiation between private luxury vans and premium commercial vans as well as for maximum synergies
                      • Lead in Electric: Mercedes‑Benz Vans targets an EV share of up to 20% by 2026 and more than 50% by 2030
                      • Profitable growth and portfolio extension with VAN.EA: For the first time, luxurious private electric midsize vans will be introduced in the U.S. and China
                      • Less complexity and significant economies of scale: Planned reduction of portfolio variants by over 50% compared to current vans with combustion engine covering the same use cases for customers
                      • Electric RVs: new model line of ex-factory midsize and large camper vans, based on VAN.EA
                      • Specific ex-factory van will aim at the upper price bands of the courier, express and parcel industry

                      Starting 2026, all newly developed vans from Mercedes-Benz will be based on just one single innovative, modular and scalable architecture called VAN.EA, short for Van Electric Architecture. According to the “electric-only” strategy, VAN.EA has been developed from scratch as a purpose battery electric vehicle (BEV).

                      All future midsize and large vans will be built on it, both commercial and private. Whether in commercial use as a versatile premium all-rounder or as a private luxury van: VAN.EA-based vehicles will focus on added value for the customers and their individual needs.

                      With the VAN.EA one architecture strategy, Mercedes‑Benz Vans will achieve a comprehensive complexity reduction in its purpose-built EV product portfolio translating into significant economies of scale. It is planned to reduce the portfolio variants by more than 50% compared to current vans with an internal combustion engine (ICE) while covering the same use cases for the customers.

                      „Starting 2026, we will introduce our purpose-built EV architecture VAN.EA. This enables us to consolidate our midsize and large vans down to only one architecture and significantly reduce the complexity of our product portfolio. Maximum added value for customers with sustainable profitability at the same time: VAN.EA clearly underscores our aspiration to be ‘Lead in Electric’.”
                      Mathias Geisen, Head of Mercedes-Benz Vans

                      The architecture (VAN.EA)

                      With VAN.EA, Mercedes-Benz Vans focuses on efficiency and performance in every aspect of the vehicle – including aerodynamics, drivetrain, tires and chassis. The goal is to achieve a high range with an optimal battery capacity, which is directly related to vehicle weight and costs.

                      A modular and scalable architecture also means a high degree of scale effects as well as maximum synergies through leaner, simpler and faster processes. A maximally efficient use of resources in development as well as in production secures sustainable profitability.

                      The three modules of VAN.EA help to achieve these targets:
                      The front module consists of the electric powertrain and the front axle. The module is the same in all VAN.EA variants, in an optimized common parts strategy. The differentiation relevant to the customer takes place in the two other modules. The center module scales the vehicle length. This is also where the standardized battery case is placed. High-voltage batteries with different capacities are installed within the case. The rear module will be available in two versions: With an electric motor for the all-wheel-drive variants of VAN.EA and without electric motor for the front-wheel drive variants.
                      Based on these three modules, VAN.EA allows for a clear differentiation between privately and commercially used vans as well as for maximum synergies.

                      The luxury private vans (VAN.EA-P)

                      VAN.EA-P stands for privately positioned vans in the midsize segment with a new level of luxury. Whether for lifestyle-oriented customers with highest standards, as a VIP shuttle, as a locally CO2-emissions free mobile office or for leisure-active families: Thanks to the innovative Mercedes‑Benz Operating System (MB.OS), VAN.EA-P is “always on” and masters all everyday challenges. With a planned range of well over 500 kilometers, it is perfectly suited for all kinds of activities, even outside cities. At market launch, SAE Level 2 automated driving will be available, SAE Level 3 is planned to be realized by end of the decade.

                      The premium commercial vans (VAN.EA-C)

                      VAN.EA-C stands for premium commercial vans in the midsize and large segments. It is the ideal base for customers who value functionality, reach, payload and cargo space. With its modular and scalable design, the architecture is tailor-made for different configurations and upfitter solutions: From courier, express and parcel delivery (CEP) vehicles to ambulances or eGrocery vans, from municipal vans or flatbeds to lifting platforms or recreational vehicles (RV), almost everything is conceivable.

                      With MB.OS, Mercedes‑Benz Vans will offer more digital extras for the commercial customers including access to third party apps. At market launch, SAE Level 2 automated driving will be available, SAE Level 4 is planned to be realized by end of the decade to address the business potential of driverless transportation.

                      „According to the ‘electric-only’ strategy, VAN.EA is developed from scratch as a purpose-built electric vehicle, fully leveraging the advantages of the new technology. Our target of more than 50% BEV share by 2030 goes hand in hand with a significant reduction in CO2-emissions across the entire lifecycle of new vans.”
                      Andreas Zygan, Head of Mercedes-Benz Vans Development

                      New markets, new customers

                      Mercedes-Benz Vans aims for further profitable growth in its most important regions. Today, Europe is already the strongest market with a 60% share of total sales worldwide. Mercedes‑Benz Vans wants to strengthen its position here. Looking ahead, substantial growth potential is being seen in the U.S. for premium commercial large vans and in China for luxury private vans.

                      In the U.S., Mercedes‑Benz Vans aims to profitably and substantially increase sales by 2030 as well as to expand the portfolio by adding VAN.EA-based commercial vans to the lineup.
                      Both in the U.S. and China, Mercedes-Benz Vans plans to offer VAN.EA-based private vans in an unparalleled luxury positioning to more strongly cater to the expectations of its sophisticated customers. In the U.S., Mercedes‑Benz Vans will offer for the first-time ever a privately positioned midsize luxury van.

                      Mercedes‑Benz Vans will also expand the portfolio of ex-factory camper vans with a new model line of fully electric midsize and large camper vans, based on VAN.EA. The division aims to define the new industry standard with its international camper business partners around the world.

                      The worldwide courier, express and parcel services market with an annual growth of 6‑8% per year is a strong driver for a fully electric intra- and inter-urban mobility. Mercedes-Benz Vans focuses on the upper price bands of the CEP industry, where it intends to offer a VAN.EA CEP-specific version ex-factory for the first-time ever.

                      The production network

                      Mercedes-Benz Vans is reorganising the global production network with its first pure electric light commercial vehicles (eLCV) plant in Jawor, Poland. The plant aims to set new standards in terms of productivity, lean operations and sustainability for the manufacturing of premium eLCVs worldwide. The production site for the VAN.EA-based large vans will be net carbon neutral just like all own plants of Mercedes‑Benz Vans. For the first time, Mercedes-Benz Vans plans to cover 100% of its energy needs through renewable energy. Mercedes-Benz Vans aims for a combination of different renewable energy sources to cover the electricity and heat requirements. These are expected to include electricity from maximized use of photovoltaics, wind power and heat generation via air heat pumps, geothermal and solar thermal energy and, if necessary, as fallback in peak times, a small amount of biogas.

                      Additionally to the eSprinter and the Sprinter vans with ICE drivetrains, the large cab chassis based on VAN.EA will also be built in Düsseldorf, Germany. The plant in Ludwigsfelde, the second of two plants in Germany, will continue to produce Mercedes‑Benz Sprinter and Mercedes‑Benz eSprinter and will shift to become a competence center for eVan customization, for example for camper vans. In addition, Mercedes‑Benz Vans will build VAN.EA-based midsize vans in its plant in Vitoria, Spain. Other plants will follow.

                      Mercedes-Benz Vans electrification strategy

                      Mercedes-Benz Vans has firmly anchored its leadership aspiration for electric mobility in its strategy.
                      With the Vito E-CELL, Mercedes-Benz Vans was already a pioneer in the market for locally CO2-emissions free vans in 2010.

                      In 2023, Mercedes-Benz Vans offers fully electric variants in every segment, from small over midsize to large vans.

                      With VAN.EA, Mercedes-Benz Vans implements the next stage in its electrification strategy. Starting 2026, all midsize and large vans based on the new modular architecture will be electric-only.

                      Mercedes-Benz Vans has a market share of over 20% in Europe in 2022 for electric large and midsize vans. More than 40,000 eVans have been sold already and Mercedes-Benz Vans is targeting further strong growth in the electric segment.

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                        El plan inicial de Merche en 2002, cuando presentó el primer Maybach, era presentarlo con un V24.

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                        Esquema del motor presentado por «Motor auto sport» en 1999

                        Via SoyMotor.

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                          Cuanto más, menos apretao y más cómodo.
                          Está claro que puedes sacar 1000 cv como en el w16 de bugatti.
                          Pero y lo cómodo que iría ese V24 con pongamos 500 CV a 130 por carretera? Silencio absoluto

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                            Es la filosofía contraria a la americana, allí desde siempre han tirado más por el cubicaje que por el nº… Y ahora Europa es menos-menos.
                            para mi, la americana y la tuya tienen sus ventajas e inconvenientes, de la época que hablamos, 99-02, Volkswagen ya coqueteaba con los 18 cilindros, en un proyecto interno llamado Nardo) y con la configuración en W (tal vez de esas dos filosofias mezcladas nació el motor del Veyron.
                            Y BMW ya había desarrollado un V16 de bloque y culata de aluminio a 60º, 6.7 litros y 32 válvulas, que arrojaba unas cifras de casi 410Cv y más de 600Nm.

                            Los locos años 90…

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                              Sí que es verdad que por otra parte, los motores de F1 ahora son ¨simples¨ 1.6 y son una auténtica obra de la ingeniería.

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                                La futura gama de acceso de Mercedes en este teaser

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                                  Pues se acabaron las especulaciones en la gama baja. Adios A y derivado (sedan) y el clase B

                                  Y eso que el A vende bastante bastante bien. Pero con el CLA ganarán más dinero. Y estaba claro que GLA y GLB iban a seguir existiendo…

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                                    Pues yo no tenía tan claro que CLA Shooting brake y GLB fueran a seguir.

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                                      Eran las posibles dudas si. El GLB no creo que venda mucho, es probable que ni se acerque al A, pero como es más caro, sacan mayor rentabilidad

                                      Por el CLA Shooting brake, creo que vende bien, de ahí que lo mantengan

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                                        Por eso es lo raro con el A que es casi el que más vende. En una entrevista de un medio Italiano decían que podía llegar con base Geely, por eso puede que no se incluya ahí.

                                        O directamente que sea el Smart #2

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                                          Mercedes presentará en el CES el futuro de sus interiores e IA

                                          • El asistente virtual MBUX impulsado por IA lleva la relación conductor-automóvil a una nueva dimensión con una interacción natural y humana
                                          • Nuevas funciones y colaboraciones que definen su clase intensifican el entretenimiento inmersivo en el automóvil

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                                          Una extensión de usted y perfectamente en sintonía con sus necesidades: este es el camino a seguir para una experiencia del cliente hiperpersonalizada e intuitiva, dentro y fuera del automóvil. En CES 2024, Mercedes-Benz adelantará el siguiente gran paso hacia su visión. El asistente virtual MBUX que cambia las reglas del juego. Lleva el asistente de voz «Hey Mercedes» a una dimensión visual completamente nueva.

                                          Fuente: Mercedes-Benz

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                                            La pregunta es… Lo integrarán en los actuales MBUX o los dejarán tirados?

                                            Entiendo que lógicamente sí, hasta DS ha metido el chat gpt. Pero siempre hay huecos para las sorpresas.

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